Mark Wahlberg.com
HOME FILMOGRAPHY PHOTOGRAPHY INTERVIEWS BIOGRAPHY
YOUTH FOUNDATION MESSAGE BOARD STORE CHAT

Thread Closed  Thread Closed
UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone!
  MarkWahlberg.com Message Boards
  Rock Star
  The truth about "Rock Star"

Post New Topic  
profile | register | preferences | faq | search

next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   The truth about "Rock Star"
Kevin Conder
Member
posted July 24, 2002 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Conder     Edit/Delete Message

"Rockstar" is premiering on HBO, August 10th.

After that, it goes into heavy rotation. This means that pretty much everyone in America who has HBO will see at least part of it while surfing around.

So it might be interesting for all of you to know the following:


Did you know that Mark Wahlberg's camp made Warner Bros. put a gag order on Micheal Matjiveic- that he couldn't, and for that matter, can't, even today, without written clearance,say what he sang. I have seen the contract.

Did you know that Walhberg repeatedly claimed that he "worked with a voice coach to increase sustain for six months"
and that he sang a good percentage of the songs.
Evidence from interview:

Entertainment Tonight
Interview
August 13, 2001
Now, were you singing?

I sing a lot of it. I sang throughout the whole thing and it was up to Steve to use my vocals when it was good and if they had to dub any of it. They were certainly more than welcome to dub anything.

AOL Chat Transcript
Sept 4, 2001

Question: Is that your real voice singing in 'Rock Star'?

Mark Wahlberg: Most of it, yes.

end interviews

There's a lot of purposeful confusion out there, created by Warner Bros. about who sang what on both the movie and the album.

Here, then, is the truth.

Jeff Scott Soto sang all of Bobby Beer's songs in the movie.

He sang "Stand Up and Shout" on the album.

Micheal Matijivec sang all of Chris Cole's parts- all of them(except the very last song, sung by Verve Pipe.)

He sang all of the other Steel Dragon songs on the album.

Mark Wahlberg lied, or at best, purposely fed the deception that he is that incredible voice.

The fact that the Wahlberg camp is trying to steal glory onto their star away from a should-be rock superstar is the truth.

I'll stop there.... for now. There's more.
I will keep pushing this until Mark comes clean and give Mr. Matijivec


IP: Logged

City Gal
Member
posted July 24, 2002 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for City Gal     Edit/Delete Message
well well well, very interesting!
How come no-one has mentioned this before?

IP: Logged

Phillygirl
Member
posted July 24, 2002 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phillygirl     Edit/Delete Message
Let me ask you a question - WHO CARES? Did I go to see the movie because Mark was singing - UM No! As far as what "Mark W.'s Camp" worked out - WE DON'T CARE! Unless I hear it from Mark W's lips, I could care less.

IP: Logged

Kevin Conder
Member
posted July 24, 2002 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Conder     Edit/Delete Message
Well, the reason you didn't hear about this is both legal and Warner wanted to create the illusion that Mark sang.

I understand that and I'm fine with it. But the fact that Warner delibriately deceived the public and then leaglly gagged the real singer(Mike Matijevic) is well.. not good.

Understand that I don't have anything against Mark other than wanting him to stop taking credit that's not his.

And I do have reams of evidence. Like the original studio tapes...

I mean, aren't you guys ****ed that you were lied to? Geez, the guy makes 10 million a movie anyway. He has to pretend he's a great singer, too?

IP: Logged

City Gal
Member
posted July 24, 2002 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for City Gal     Edit/Delete Message
Well his singing has been discussed before and most of us know he didn't sing, it's in the RS section somewhere, but I am intrigued by why they would go to such lengths to cover it up.

IP: Logged

SheilaB
Member
posted July 24, 2002 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SheilaB     Edit/Delete Message
Who asked YOU to step your nose into what Mark did and didn't do? Why does it matter to you anyway? The appropriate people will get their credit when it is deserved, until then back off. I think you and Mark Shields need to have a discussion off the board. Frankly who gives a rip who actually sang what? We all know that Mark can sing, we've heard him in Boogie Nights. You really should email mr. shields and leave your **** off the board, none of us care what you said anyway, well, most of us anyway.

IP: Logged

sarah and mark 4ever
Member
posted July 24, 2002 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah and mark 4ever     Edit/Delete Message
Let's all calm down
I mean it sounds like Mark and that's all i care about. I mean if this is true they found an amazing double!
Now the next thing I am going to say which will probly get this thread closed is,
SCREW YOU!! I mean you come on to the fan message board, which by the way you had never been to. I checked your profile!!! And tell us a bunch of **** that doesn't matter.
Oh yeah you know there is a Rock Star Message Board use it!!!!
100, 99, 98, 97, 96, 95, 94, 93, 92, 91, 90,........................................

------------------
http://www.ufanz.com/teams/deadsy/tracking.php?ti=177&mi=11087


IP: Logged

City Gal
Member
posted July 24, 2002 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for City Gal     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think this subject is worth getting upset over.

IP: Logged

LYNNE
Member
posted July 24, 2002 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LYNNE     Edit/Delete Message
Wow Kev chill out man.
Can I ask you a question.Do you like Mark Wahlberg?
Ok nobody's getting upset.
Maybe Mark said he did a lot of singing.Maybe he did & a large percentage of it got dubbed.
Anyway when I saw the premier interview of Rock Star.The lady who was doing the interviewing on the red carpet said.Here is the guy that did most of the singing on the film.I think she spoke to him or pointed him out to the camera.
Strong words for a first post.
Lets all cool down.
Maybe you should be posting to Warner Brothers.

IP: Logged

Kevin Conder
Member
posted July 24, 2002 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Conder     Edit/Delete Message
My, my, aren't we a passionate bunch.
That's good, when so many people lack it.

Let's get a few things clear-
1.)This is a "General" board- that means any material related to MW is relevant, correct?

2.) Starting a discussion based on the truth is never a bad idea. This is the U.S., right?

3.) Yes, my friends, I have e-mailed Warner and several magazines and TV shows.(And yes, I am getting responses.)

4.) If the moderator thinks what I've said is inapproriate he can pull it, right?

5.)If what I'm saying is a "how cares" issue, why fire off such salvos at me? Sounds like you care, a lot. Someone is saying something negative about someone you care about(Wahlberg). Now you know how I feel.

6.) This is not a "smear" campaign. This is a pro "give credit where credit is due" campaign. Remember the name: Michael Matijevic.

7.) There is far more around this issue than just who sang what. I mean, this is a message board. I can't lay everything out.

Believe me, I understand why Mark did what he did. Can you imagine what it was like for the guy who sang it all listening to Mark take credit?


IP: Logged

LYNNE
Member
posted July 24, 2002 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LYNNE     Edit/Delete Message
I think we all understand what you are saying but I don't think any of us here can change the situation.

IP: Logged

elisabet
Member
posted July 24, 2002 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisabet     Edit/Delete Message
I have no idea WHY this is of great importance to you Kevin, do you have some kind of copywrite issue, have you been duped by the same thing at some point? are you a singer/songwriter that has had lyrics/credit taken from you?. I can tell you right now that Mark will NOT come on here personally and say 'look Kevin is right, I didn't sing at all on Rock Star', you have more chance of angels flying out of your arse mate and unfortunately you're going to come up against a lot of angry people for posting this, maybe that's what you were after all along. Lianne, our administrator has made it quite clear that Mark DID NOT sing on Rockstar and Warner Bros has not sued her to my knowledge.

PS Are you Michael Matijevic?, is he your brother,lover,friend? I'm intrigued by this, I'll be saying Michael Matijevic in my sleep tonight, well maybe not....

[This message has been edited by elisabet (edited July 24, 2002).]

IP: Logged

sarah and mark 4ever
Member
posted July 24, 2002 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah and mark 4ever     Edit/Delete Message
Look where you were moved to dumb *** !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh and I am sure this Matjiveic know what he was getting into!!
Oh and Elisabet don't worry, all smiles here
------------------
http://www.ufanz.com/teams/deadsy/tracking.php?ti=177&mi=11087

[This message has been edited by sarah and mark 4ever (edited July 24, 2002).]

IP: Logged

elisabet
Member
posted July 24, 2002 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisabet     Edit/Delete Message
See what I mean Kev?

IP: Logged

Kevin Conder
Member
posted July 24, 2002 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kevin Conder     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you all for your replies. BTW, I am not Matijevic. Please keep any hostility or offense you feel to me and not him. He has no knowledge of this. At least, I got you to remember the name. And everything I've written is true.

I am a writer and I will be soon starting a new project, loosely based on a rock star's life in the next century. If you search on my name on Amazon or any book site, you'll see my latest novel.

What I've been doing here, although I doubt if any of you care, is a kind of research. I thought this little drama made **** good copy. So do a lot of other people. I might just lift this whole thread(with a few creative changes) into the book.

Thank you for showing me how deeply some people care about their idols. And how thin-skinned they can be about them.

I expected harsh replies, but I must admit the viciousness of your posts was more than I was ready for.

May you all find what you are looking for and may that be all that you expected it to be and more.



IP: Logged

sarah and mark 4ever
Member
posted July 24, 2002 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah and mark 4ever     Edit/Delete Message
Oh stop the Bull you started this hole thread because you were bored!! No lies!!
Yeah and I know of a Kevin Conder who wrote an excellent book. But you couldn't be him!
Oh yeah why did you pick this message board????

------------------
http://www.ufanz.com/teams/deadsy/tracking.php?ti=177&mi=11087

[This message has been edited by sarah and mark 4ever (edited July 24, 2002).]

IP: Logged

elisabet
Member
posted July 24, 2002 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elisabet     Edit/Delete Message
so, you've been doing research so this whole thing was liar liar pants on fire???????

Well, thanks for that mate now be a good lad and fvck off ( to the non fake, wonderful members of this board,please don't encourage the twat to come back) lift this whole thread and shove it up your.........

;;;oh elisabet, the viciousness of your attack has inspired me to write in depth details on message board rage;;;;


[This message has been edited by elisabet (edited July 24, 2002).]

IP: Logged

Athena75
Member
posted July 24, 2002 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Athena75     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Lynne. I guess I don't understand why you are posting this here. There isn't anyone here that can do anything to help the situation. I personally don't care whether it was Mark's voice or not. I knew that not all of it was anyway.
It would make much more sense if you wrote Warner Bros in an attempt to get the guy his due credit.

Athena

------------------
www.geocities.com/j_elizabeth_author/

AIM- AthenaGoddess77

IP: Logged

Lianne
Administrator
posted July 25, 2002 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lianne     Edit/Delete Message
Don't feed trolls! But you know its fun to mock them as they mock us. Sooo....

As I usually tell everyone, you should read a couple pages worth of postings before posting, so we're all on the same page so to speak.

Did you even see the film? I think pretty much everyone here knows it is not just Mark's voice on the film or soundtrack. Mike and Jeff (funny how you ['Kevin'] never mentioned him!) are both credited on the film and soundtrack listing/credits. I'd advise you take some film classes or read some film production books. If you did, you would know actors are not involved in sound mixing/editing. That's why they're called actors not sound editors.

I personally wonder how one would get a hold of contracts and studio tapes. Unless you worked for principals involved, it would be mighty hard to get. If you do/did work for them, I'm sure in your work agreement/contract, you're not allowed to take the stuff home, make copies or to discuss the matter with others. Its called a breech of contract. And yes even if you only worked as an intern, you'd be in a load of trouble. If some pal handed it to you, they're in trouble too. Sense a pattern?

If you are such a great writer, one would do better than to start with accusatory statements. And when did interviews have promises of the whole truth? They are by nature advertisements/public relations. Take some classes on the subjects. How about some tangible evidence (a picture of said reams of evidence or clips from the studio tapes?)

Now the most troubling part of your posts is Mike has no idea you're pursuing this on his behalf. That is dodgy (to use the English term)/suspicious. Mike had every right to say no to this supposed contract. I'm sure he had a lawyer himself. If you're a fan of his and are doing this because you want to support him. It doesn't sound like you're doing him any favors if the contract is true. Because doing such on his behalf could actually get Mike in trouble.

Finally as you can tell I'm essentially telling you your story is suspect to qualify you as a 'professional' writer. Do some real research and not trolling the Internet. You know Lexis Nexis? And you should think about getting a lawyer or learning a bit about law before blabbing about contracts you supposedly saw and studio tapes. As a 'writer' I would hope you already have one. If you thought the statements by the members was harsh, I'd be careful about coming to CA (most litigious state in the nation). They don't call lawyers sharks for nothing.

I myself am not a lawyer, but I did take Law in college and worked for a law firm for 2+ years so I'm not pulling this out of thin air.

By the by:

quote:
2002 leverage management - all rights reserved
reproduction of content without written consent is prohibited

Oh and impersonating someone is illegal too!

IP: Logged

sarah and mark 4ever
Member
posted July 25, 2002 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sarah and mark 4ever     Edit/Delete Message
OO burn!!!
Lianne you are the best!!!

------------------
http://www.ufanz.com/teams/deadsy/tracking.php?ti=177&mi=11087


IP: Logged

Mark Shields
Administrator
posted July 25, 2002 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark Shields     Edit/Delete Message
Well said, Lianne.

If anyone sees this joker pop up again click the CONTACT US link on the bottom of any page and he will be dealt with immediately.

Thanks,
Mark

IP: Logged

All times are ET (US)

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Open Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  
Hop to:

Email Protection by Name Intelligence
2004 leverage management - all rights reserved
reproduction of content without written consent is prohibited
view our privacy & legal notice

Powered by: Ultimate Bulletin Board, Version 5.38d
© Infopop Corporation (formerly Madrona Park, Inc.), 1998 - 1999.